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Dr Steen: That has certainly been our experience. But we have to remember that previously the diagnoses have been made so late that the only time the diagnosis was made really was when patients had right-heart failure and clear-cut classic clinical pulmonary hypertension. Without treatment, even to survive two years for many patients was just unheard of. With the use of prostacyclin, my patients have had a much better survival rate and quality of life, even when the diagnosis is not made until the patient has right-heart failure.

Dr McLaughlin: One of the problems that the scleroderma population sometimes has with prostacyclin is difficulty mixing. Because many of them have severe Raynaud’s and digital ulcers and sometimes even amputa-tions, this can be problematic. That is one of the reasons why the subcutaneous prostacyclin ana-logue, treprostinil, which has recently been FDA-approved, may be useful in those patients. The scleroderma patients were included in the double-blind placebo-controlled randomized study of sub-cutaneous treprostinil and indeed benefited. Sometimes, however, that drug is difficult to use because of pain at the infusion site. Jim, you men-tioned that there were three FDA-approved drugs. The third one is an oral therapy, bosentan. Would you like to comment on your experience with that so far? And perhaps even how the advent of an oral therapy has changed practice patterns that lead to earlier screening and diagnosis?

Dr Seibold: There is no question that the logistical convenience of an oral therapy really revolutionizes the clinical approach. Prostacyclin is expensive, it is relatively cumber-some, it has more than a certain level of day-to-day adverse effects that impact the quality of life. I agree with you that the administration of treprostinil in the whole scheme of things will be more convenient for scleroderma patients and they will be a little bit better able to handle that.

Dr Badesch: The other important thing to point out is that the mechanism of action of bosentan is considerably different from that of prostacyclin. Endothelin levels may be increased in some patients with scleroderma, and using an endothelin receptor antagonist in that situation may make particular sense, beyond even what you might expect in patients with pulmonary hypertension. So, it is particularly attractive on a theoretical basis to block endothelin in patients with scleroderma and scleroderma-related pulmonary hypertension. In a randomized and placebo-controlled study involving over 200 patients with primary pulmonary hypertension and pulmonary hypertension occurring in association with collagen vascular disease, bosentan-treated patients demonstrated better activity tolerance, as assessed by the 6-minute walk test, than patients receiving placebo. The drug seems to be relatively well tolerated although it is important to mention the side effects that have been seen to date. It can cause an elevation in liver function tests and this mandates following liver function tests on a regular basis. In fact, the FDA has mandated testing at least monthly. The drug has the potential to be teratogenic and therefore contraception is very important. It may cause male infertility and young male patients should be informed of that prior to beginning the treatment. And finally, it can cause some mild anemia and at times some fluid retention.

Dr McLaughlin: Those are important points. Dave, would you like to speculate on the results in the scleroderma subpopula-tion BREATHE-1 trial, compared with the scleroderma popula-tion in your trial? Granted, it was a much smaller number in the BREATHE-1 trial, but they didn’t seem to obtain as much benefit in terms of exercise tolerance over the 16 weeks of that trial as the scleroderma patients treated with intravenous epoprostenol did in your trial. Any thoughts on that?

Dr Badesch: The data suggest that in the study of intravenous prostacyclin in patients with scleroder-ma- associated pulmonary hypertension, there was both an improvement in the treatment group and a decline in the control group that accounted for the difference between study groups. In the BREATHE-1 study, when looking at the subgroup of patients with scleroderma-associated pulmonary hypertension, it appears as though bosentan may have contributed to the maintenance of stability while patients in the placebo arm continued to deteriorate. Now as you’ve mentioned, whether or not we can take away much of a message from that is a little in doubt because the relatively small number of patients with scleroderma included in the BREATHE-1 study. Whether or not bosentan can contribute to the same amount of symptomatic improvement or improvement in exer-cise capacity as prostacyclin in this population I think is still just little bit up in the air.

Dr McLaughlin: So, the drug has been commercially available for 7 or 8 months. Jim, Ginny, would you like to share your experience with it so far?

Dr Seibold: We were somewhat concerned when we saw the failure to improve in the scleroderma subset that was incorpo-rated in the BREATHE-1 study, but suspect from our clinical use of the drug that that was an artifact of the relatively small sample size. We have about 65 scleroderma patients who are receiving bosentan currently. A large percentage of those patients, somewhere in the 80% range, have substantial, measurable, clinical improvement and improved exercise capacity. So we believe that more widespread use of the drug will validate that there is a positive clinical benefit from bosentan therapy.

Dr McLaughlin: That is an important point. The scleroderma population made up a very small percentage of these included in the BREATHE-1 trial and a much larger experience such as yours, Jim, is very important to delineate how effective this therapy is in this subpopulation.

Dr Badesch: I think it is important as we look toward the future to mention that we might begin to combine some of these different therapies in patients with pulmonary hyperten-sion due to scleroderma and perhaps we will be using some form of prostacyclin preparation in combination with an endothelin receptor antagonist, a phosphodiesterase inhibitor, and perhaps oral L-arginine or a nitric oxide donor. Multi-modality therapy that mimics the way we treat systemic hyper-tension or cancer might have a greater likelihood of a positive effect in patients with pulmonary hypertension due to scleroderma. It is important to note that my comments in this regard are speculative, and not yet supported by clinical studies.

Dr McLaughlin: I agree with that, David, and certainly combination therapy is where we are going. The scleroderma patients were included in the BREATHE-2 trial, which looks at the combination of bosentan and prostacyclin in patients with severe pulmonary hypertension. Scleroderma patients are also being included in other clinical trails, specifically with the PDE5 inhibitor sildenafil and selective endothelin receptor antagonists. Dave, you also mentioned L-arginine; there is an international trial looking at L-arginine supplementation in patients with pulmonary arterial hypertension that also includes the scleroderma spectrum of diseases.

Dr Seibold: It should be emphasized that there is a level of scientific enthusiasm/optimism about the specificity of all these drugs in the scleroderma vascular lesion. We all recognize that scleroderma starts with vascular injury frequently expressing as dysfunctional vascular change, ie, Raynaud’s phenomenon, but the endothelial injury is important very early on. One consequence is diminished nitric oxide production. A second consequence is diminished prostacyclin synthase activity and lower prostacyclin levels. A third and potentially very important tissue response is increased endothelial production of endothelin, which has vasoconstrictive effects and a variety of proliferative and proinflammatory effects that may perpetuate and worsen the structural vascular injury. So all of these agents that are being discussed, from L-arginine through prostacyclin delivery systems through endothelin antagonists may have some level of specifically addressing a key pathophysiologic derangement of scleroderma.

Dr McLaughlin: We focus so much on the existence of pul-monary arterial hypertension in the scleroderma spectrum of diseases. Are there other rheumatologic diseases that are associated with pulmonary hypertension? I have seen patients with some different rheumatologic diseases, lupus, even just Sjögren’s syndrome, or polymyositis, present with pulmonary hypertension. Is that rare, or is that something rheumatolo-gists should keep their eye out for?

Dr Steen: Well, certainly they are significantly less common than in scleroderma, but I think in the lupus population and the mixed connective disease population it is becoming more and more of a problem. In the other diseases, Sjögren’s and myositis and even rheumatoid arthritis, pulmonary hyperten-sion is well documented and we have all had these patients, but the frequency is much less.

Dr McLaughlin: Dave, have you treated a number of patients with pulmonary hypertension and interstitial lung disease? Clearly that population exists. One thing we always worry about is the potential for a worsening in V-Q mismatch, and then sometimes we just tend to treat them for their pulmonary hypertension because there is nothing else to do. I have treat-ed a number of patients like that that and I can’t say that I have seen anyone develop worsening hypoxemia because of the V-Q mismatch. How about yourself?

Dr Badesch: Initially, we excluded patients with more than mild interstitial lung disease from the prostacyclin study, because of the concern that we would worsen ventilation perfusion mismatching. I have continued to be relatively cautious in my approach to those patients, but, as I am sure other centers have done, we have broadened the group of patients we will try to treat aggressively with prostacyclin and now bosentan. I agree with you that the worsening of ventilation perfusion mismatching is probably not as much of a problem as we expected it might be early on. I would add that in the population with both interstitial lung disease and pulmonary hypertension, the early consideration of the possibility of lung transplantation is an important aspect of their care. Some of these patients may not prove to be good candidates for lung transplantation because of esophageal dysmotility and reflux and the risk of aspiration, but in the group of patients with both pulmonary hypertension and interstitial lung disease, it may be particularly important to consider the possibility of lung transplantation early on. What do you think, Jim, do you end up referring those patients for a transplant evaluation?

Dr Seibold: Dave, I really agree, but I can’t find a program that will accept my patients. The problem is that somewhere between 85% and 90% of these patients have esophageal dysmotility. So there are very few centers in the United States that are doing single lung transplantation in scleroderma at all, and there is a long list of centers that have automatically excluded scleroderma from consideration.

Dr McLaughlin: Would anyone like to make any closing remarks before we finish up?

Dr Badesch: I am pleased to see that patients with scleroderma-related pulmonary hypertension are being included in most of the studies now. And as Jim mentioned earlier, the level of en-thusiasm for treating these patients has increased over time. I hope that we will continue to work collaboratively on clinical trials and toward improving the timely diagnosis of pulmonary hypertension and prompt initiation of appropriate therapy.

Dr Steen: I hope that in future studies we look for patients who have what I’d term pre-pulmonary hypertension, or are borderline, or at high risk, or whatever you want to call them, and see whether by very early aggressive treatment we might totally prevent or allay or delay the dangerous deadly consequences of this.

Dr Seibold: I would just like to express my appreciation and admiration to the group of collegial, high-quality investigators in cardiology and pulmonary medicine who have pushed the field of management options in pulmonary hypertension so far and so fast, and have made available so many different options for patients with scleroderma. It has been an astounding several years of productivity.

Dr McLaughlin: The one thing I want to emphasize from our discussion is that recognizing these patients is critical. We now have something that we can do for them. Early detection of pulmonary arterial hypertension in the scleroderma popula-tion might allow us to really have an impact on this devastating disease. PH

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